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1) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9668)
Posted 8 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Are you sure Boinc is in the right order? I see it give a random order compared to say MSI Afterburner. I had a machine with 6 cards in it, and Boinc's order compared to MSI was something like 3, 5, 1, 2, 0, 4. I assumed it was physical connection order vs. driver loading order. Although Folding@Home is different again. Very annoying when trying to allocate cards or work out which is overheating.

Yes in my case with "only" two GPU BOINC has the right order. The GPU where the boot screen appears is GPU0 and the other (dark) one is GPU1. The same order as the BIOS allocates the screens.

What about GPU-Z or MSI Afterburner? I use Afterburner to check usage and temperature, and it usually disagrees with Boinc, even with two cards.

Damnit this forum deletes double spaces between sentences, they're scientifically proven to make reading easier.
2) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9666)
Posted 7 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Are you sure Boinc is in the right order? I see it give a random order compared to say MSI Afterburner. I had a machine with 6 cards in it, and Boinc's order compared to MSI was something like 3, 5, 1, 2, 0, 4. I assumed it was physical connection order vs. driver loading order. Although Folding@Home is different again. Very annoying when trying to allocate cards or work out which is overheating.
3) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9661)
Posted 6 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
I wonder why it's called that? Git is a rude word.

According to the wikipedia page, because the developer named it after himself, like with Linux.

It says this which implies Linus thinks of himself as a git? It's not his name:

Torvalds sarcastically quipped about the name git (which means "unpleasant person" in British English slang): "I'm an egotistical bastard, and I name all my projects after myself. First 'Linux', now 'git'."[31][32] The man page describes Git as "the stupid content tracker".[33] The read-me file of the source code elaborates further:[34] "git" can mean anything, depending on your mood. Random three-letter combination that is pronounceable, and not actually used by any common UNIX command. The fact that it is a mispronunciation of "get" may or may not be relevant. Stupid. Contemptible and despicable. Simple. Take your pick from the dictionary of slang. "Global information tracker": you're in a good mood, and it actually works for you. Angels sing, and a light suddenly fills the room. "Goddamn idiotic truckload of shit": when it breaks. The source code for Git refers to the program as "the information manager from hell".

Isn't that a command in Linux? We were talking about a discussion forum called github, which was made by Chris Wanstrath, P. J. Hyett, Tom Preston-Werner, and Scott Chacon, nobody named Git.
4) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9657)
Posted 5 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Git works fine for me, apart from the quoting system screws up when you try to insert code. Reported that to github themselves, but didn't get anywhere, can't remember why.

I wonder why it's called that? Git is a rude word.
5) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9655)
Posted 5 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Mr P Hucker wrote:

I don't understand what you mean. I wanted to run the same task on both GPUs at once. If the dodgy one gives a different result, there's something up.


This has never been allowed in any other Boinc Project so far, one task per gpu each running it's own task. It's not like gaming where you can double, triple whatever up on the gpu's to make the game perform better.

Unless you are talking about testing, then yes they often run the same task on each gpu, getting zero credits of course, to test the task on multiple gpu's.

Yes I was referring to his test.

It's a pity there aren't multi GPU tasks like there are multi CPU core tasks. Should be possible. The CPU is in control of the task, it could send requests alternately to two GPUs. Things like Jennifer extreme (oo er) in Primegrid could get done much sooner.
6) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9651)
Posted 5 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
So automatically we will get the right app?

And this will be two tasks running, one on each card, or will it be one task spread between them?
7) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9647)
Posted 5 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Thank you for this.

I saw the notice in the BOINC client this evening, added a second Nvidia card to a Windows 10 box, updated the cc_config and it all works perfectly.

Cheers

--
Martin

Are you sure? Are both cards generating heat and have usage in MSI Afterburner or GPU-Z etc? Me and Trinitas are getting both units running on one GPU and the second is idle. But we have AMD and you have Nvidia, it may be different.
8) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9634)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
I've figured it out.
They're both running on the first card. If I pause the one alledgedly on the second card, the memory usage on the first card drops.
9) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9632)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
This could be a severe problem if there's "valid" tasks coming back which aren't. If this was happening before this update, on any machines with more than one card, can you track down suspect results and re-run them?


The result was good.

no factor for M590297503 from 2^74 to 2^75 [mfakto 0.15pre7-MGW cl_barrett15_82_gs_2]
tf(): total time spent: 1h 6m 5.398s (141.22 GHz-days / day)

ERROR: get_next_assignment(): no valid assignment found in "worktodo.txt"
2024-02-04 11:04:38 (8628): mfakto.exe exited; CPU time 10.062500
2024-02-04 11:04:38 (8628): called boinc_finish(0)

It can't have been if the card was idle. It's claiming it didn't find a factor, but it could have been sat doing nothing and lying.
10) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9629)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
This could be a severe problem if there's "valid" tasks coming back which aren't. If this was happening before this update, on any machines with more than one card, can you track down suspect results and re-run them?
11) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9628)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
The 7 minutes I said was from Boinc, which seems to race ahead with the % complete. In 15 minutes according to stderr.txt, it will be complete. We'll see if it validates. Or perhaps you can run that same task on a known good card of your own. I'd hate to think it's giving tasks back which validate but are wrong.


I dont have a good card. A standalone test is the best option to test both cards and track down the issue.
Can you make them both run the same task?

yes but not recommended. The GPU use 99% and CPU is nearly unused. Only a test can help.

I don't understand what you mean. I wanted to run the same task on both GPUs at once. If the dodgy one gives a different result, there's something up.

This is the finished task, which the server claims passed, but it can't have done if it didn't do calculations: https://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/result.php?resultid=141051715

Let me know how to run this test.
12) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9626)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
The 7 minutes I said was from Boinc, which seems to race ahead with the % complete. In 15 minutes according to stderr.txt, it will be complete. We'll see if it validates. Or perhaps you can run that same task on a known good card of your own. I'd hate to think it's giving tasks back which validate but are wrong.


I dont have a good card. A standalone test is the best option to test both cards and track down the issue.
Can you make them both run the same task?
13) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9624)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
The 7 minutes I said was from Boinc, which seems to race ahead with the % complete. In 15 minutes according to stderr.txt, it will be complete. We'll see if it validates. Or perhaps you can run that same task on a known good card of your own. I'd hate to think it's giving tasks back which validate but are wrong. since it's generating no heat and has 0% usage in MSI Afterburner, it's definitely not doing calculations. And there's no CPU usage for that task either (in Boinc or Windows Task Manager).
14) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9621)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Well there's no heat coming from the card and MSI afterburner shows 0% usage. Boinc and the text file claim it's progressing, I assume the end result will be invalid. The one still running will be done in 7 minutes.
15) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9618)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
In the meantime you can view one which started on the second card and I aborted after a few minutes:

https://srbase.my-firewall.org/sr5/result.php?resultid=141051766
16) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9617)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Ah I see, I think I need to let it run to completion (if it will). Trying, will get back to you....
17) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9616)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Not working in Windows 11 with two of AMD Radeon R9 280X cards (old things - 3GB, OpenCL 1.2). Both run and show progress in Boinc, but the second one shows 0% usage and generates no heat.

I assume the required version you speak of is the version of SRBase, which Boinc updates itself? I have 0.28 against the running tasks.

Can you post the stderr.txt of the 2nd card?

I don't have that file, or know where to find it.
I have stderrdae.txt, stderrgpudetect.txt, stdoutdae.txt, stdoutgpudetect.txt in c:\programdata\boinc.
18) Message boards : News : New TF multiGPU apps deployed (issues fixed) (Message 9614)
Posted 4 Feb 2024 by Mr P Hucker
Not working in Windows 11 with two of AMD Radeon R9 280X cards (old things - 3GB, OpenCL 1.2). Both run and show progress in Boinc, but the second one shows 0% usage and generates no heat.

I assume the required version you speak of is the version of SRBase, which Boinc updates itself? I have 0.28 against the running tasks.
19) Message boards : Cafe : Children’s Respite Home closed by Network Rail’s Heartless Action (Message 9246)
Posted 9 Nov 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Sorry for the off topic post, but I stayed at this campsite/B&B/kid's charity and would hate to see it closed down. Network Rail never paid them the £250K damage they caused by making a flood by blocking a stream. Now they're doing this. It seems Network Rail operate above the law.

https://chng.it/HFyDCQzLvm

Please sign and share.
20) Message boards : Cafe : 1300W 106A POWER SUPPLIES (Message 8922)
Posted 6 Jun 2023 by Mr P Hucker
Whatever Milkyway is doing works ok. I didn't input any size, it just fits in my browser perfectly.

https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=5006


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