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Message 6521 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 8:26:30 UTC

Short WUs.

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Message 6522 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 15:25:09 UTC

Is it possible to have it all? I mean let users choose in Project Preferences which WUs to check off to run based on their GPU? This way slow GPUs can pick the short WUs and fast GPUs can pick the long WUs. Or is that too much of a pain to setup on the server to feed proper WUs based on that selection?

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Message 6523 - Posted: 30 May 2020, 16:13:37 UTC - in response to Message 6522.

Is it possible to have it all? I mean let users choose in Project Preferences which WUs to check off to run based on their GPU? This way slow GPUs can pick the short WUs and fast GPUs can pick the long WUs. Or is that too much of a pain to setup on the server to feed proper WUs based on that selection?


yes and no, we have started from the lowest range and will end at the highest.

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Message 6525 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 2:37:08 UTC - in response to Message 6523.

Is it possible to have it all? I mean let users choose in Project Preferences which WUs to check off to run based on their GPU? This way slow GPUs can pick the short WUs and fast GPUs can pick the long WUs. Or is that too much of a pain to setup on the server to feed proper WUs based on that selection?


yes and no, we have started from the lowest range and will end at the highest.


I mean, could we possibly have different "subprojects" like the S/R Base long/average/short ones? For example 70-71,71-72,72-73,...?

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Message 6526 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 6:52:04 UTC - in response to Message 6525.

Is it possible to have it all? I mean let users choose in Project Preferences which WUs to check off to run based on their GPU? This way slow GPUs can pick the short WUs and fast GPUs can pick the long WUs. Or is that too much of a pain to setup on the server to feed proper WUs based on that selection?


yes and no, we have started from the lowest range and will end at the highest.


I mean, could we possibly have different "subprojects" like the S/R Base long/average/short ones? For example 70-71,71-72,72-73,...?


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Message 6528 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 12:29:10 UTC

I’m fine with whatever size WU’s you choose to give us. My 2080’s don’t mind if they are large WU’s or small, they will just chew them up and spit them out either way.
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Message 6529 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 14:58:53 UTC

Thanks everyone for your feedback :)

I can see that, we are now having more than 2700 GPUs at work and a good deal of them are high end users. If we can maintain this firepower, going all the way to 74 bit by the end of the year is indeed feasible and going all the way to 76 bit next year is feasible. With that kind of work being completed at the moment, it is best to go like Rebirther prefers and go breadth first - that will give those with slow GPUs a chance to adapt to the near future, where everything with a factor below 75 bit is cleared.

Personally I'm amazed at the firepower that a 2080 has, especially the 2080 TI. By the end of this bit level, some users are going to have a completion time of approximately 10 seconds per test :)

Thank you everyone for contributing, it sure does help GIMPs a lot and by going breadth first, we actually contribute to every users, and not just those users searching at the wavefront :)

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Message 6530 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:12:11 UTC - in response to Message 6529.
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Not 2700 GPUs but around 100-200 yes...lol

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Message 6531 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:25:24 UTC - in response to Message 6530.

Not 2700 GPUs but around 100-200 yes...lol


2700 should be correct, there are only 20 WUs max in progress per host.

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Message 6532 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:28:55 UTC - in response to Message 6531.
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Not 2700 GPUs but around 100-200 yes...lol


2700 should be correct, there are only 20 WUs max in progress per host.


You can trick the server by saying you have x amount of GPU’s or CPU’s. You are too naive. If we had 2700 GPU how many wus would we all be doing per day? Make the calculations.

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Message 6533 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:34:02 UTC - in response to Message 6532.
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Not 2700 GPUs but around 100-200 yes...lol


2700 should be correct, there are only 20 WUs max in progress per host.


You can trick the server by saying you have x amount of GPU’s or CPU’s. You are too naive. If we had 2700 GPU how many wus would we all be doing per day? Make the calculations.


56000 WUs / 20 = 2800 GPUs. We can do now around 120k WUs per day. Would be good to find a statistic site where the amound of GPUs are listed.

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Message 6534 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:34:57 UTC

Also you are 7 day averaging 103,000 GHz/day on GIMPS, that’s equivalent to 70 RTX 2070.

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Message 6535 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:36:34 UTC
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You are wrong, please think. Your top host does not have 400 GPU’s.
Your output it is not about how much you can queue but how much you can process. Dividing by 20 is wrong.

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Message 6536 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:41:38 UTC - in response to Message 6535.
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You are wrong, please think. Your top host does not have 400 GPU’s.
Your output it is not about how much you can queue but how much you can process. Dividing by 20 is wrong.


On Free-dc stats there are 117 active users of 290 = 117 GPUs

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Message 6537 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:53:14 UTC - in response to Message 6536.

You are wrong, please think. Your top host does not have 400 GPU’s.
Your output it is not about how much you can queue but how much you can process. Dividing by 20 is wrong.


On Free-dc stats there are 117 active users of 290 = 117 GPUs


So it is not 2700 GPUs...Lol

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Message 6538 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 16:56:16 UTC - in response to Message 6537.

You are wrong, please think. Your top host does not have 400 GPU’s.
Your output it is not about how much you can queue but how much you can process. Dividing by 20 is wrong.


On Free-dc stats there are 117 active users of 290 = 117 GPUs


So it is not 2700 GPUs...Lol


yes, the work done per day was missing but enough power with less GPUs

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Message 6539 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 17:01:02 UTC - in response to Message 6536.

You are wrong, please think. Your top host does not have 400 GPU’s.
Your output it is not about how much you can queue but how much you can process. Dividing by 20 is wrong.


On Free-dc stats there are 117 active users of 290 = 117 GPUs


Another ressource is the server status, so you can see active users reported a result, last time I have seen 111.

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Message 6540 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 17:10:14 UTC - in response to Message 6539.
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You are wrong, please think. Your top host does not have 400 GPU’s.
Your output it is not about how much you can queue but how much you can process. Dividing by 20 is wrong.


On Free-dc stats there are 117 active users of 290 = 117 GPUs


Another ressource is the server status, so you can see active users reported a result, last time I have seen 111.


The question was if the project had 2700 or 2800 GPUs deployed which now I believe we reached a consensus.
Look at this: 2800 GPU’s / 117 active users =~24....lol Active crunchers here don’t have on average 24 GPU’s...lol

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Message 6541 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 18:13:25 UTC - in response to Message 6540.

You are wrong, please think. Your top host does not have 400 GPU’s.
Your output it is not about how much you can queue but how much you can process. Dividing by 20 is wrong.


On Free-dc stats there are 117 active users of 290 = 117 GPUs


Another ressource is the server status, so you can see active users reported a result, last time I have seen 111.


The question was if the project had 2700 or 2800 GPUs deployed which now I believe we reached a consensus.
Look at this: 2800 GPU’s / 117 active users =~24....lol Active crunchers here don’t have on average 24 GPU’s...lol


My calculation is still wrong, BOINC counts only active users but not the GPU amount, if an active user has different GPUs it will only count to 1 so the number must be much higher.

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Message 6542 - Posted: 31 May 2020, 19:35:19 UTC - in response to Message 6532.

You can trick the server by saying you have x amount of GPU’s or CPU’s. You are too naive. If we had 2700 GPU how many wus would we all be doing per day? Make the calculations.


And exactly what is the purpose of doing so? Why not just accept the amount that the server send out?

Doing the last request would actually make it possible to calculate the real ressources we have - now in stead of a very huge production we only have a very huge cue of work waiting to be processed.

Maybe a setting on the server could/should be made to render that possibility IMPOSSIBLE - is that possible Reb?

A note on my third question is that the server has proven reliable enough to sustain the users with enough work even if they have only 20 workunits cued per host.

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