upcoming S66 batch change
log in

Advanced search

Message boards : News : upcoming S66 batch change

1 · 2 · Next
Author Message
Profile rebirther
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project tester
Project scientist
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 13
Posts: 7427
Credit: 42,730,867
RAC: 0
Message 9256 - Posted: 15 Nov 2023, 12:19:21 UTC

To get this 2023 CRUS goal in time there is a need to change the deadline in the next batch. Its planned to change the deadline from 3d to 0.5d for faster returns

Profile Prescott
Send message
Joined: 20 May 17
Posts: 69
Credit: 797,111,018
RAC: 2,204,596
Message 9257 - Posted: 15 Nov 2023, 13:01:08 UTC - in response to Message 9256.

Nice.
____________
Primes Found:
50*893^231310-1 (Top 5000)
316*1010^150468+1
20*634^476756-1 (Top 5000)
6101*60^134079-1
96*789^506568+1 (Top 5000)
225*370^322863-1 (Top 5000)
4854*103^128181+1
71460*25^337758-1
3782*733^123379-1

Jaari
Send message
Joined: 4 Apr 21
Posts: 13
Credit: 42,495,655
RAC: 0
Message 9258 - Posted: 15 Nov 2023, 19:14:56 UTC

Honestly, I find a 3 day time-out on <60 second tasks a bit weird in the first place.

Speedy51
Send message
Joined: 7 Feb 18
Posts: 70
Credit: 242,181,797
RAC: 197,997
Message 9259 - Posted: 15 Nov 2023, 21:17:06 UTC

Yes I agree deadlines can certainly be shorter. Could I suggest instead of a 0.5 (12 hour) moving to a .75 (18 hour) deadline? Reason being not everybody runs the computer is 24 hours a day.

I feel potentially with a 0.5 day deadline you may get some hosts missing the deadline

Profile rebirther
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project tester
Project scientist
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 13
Posts: 7427
Credit: 42,730,867
RAC: 0
Message 9260 - Posted: 15 Nov 2023, 22:38:27 UTC - in response to Message 9259.

Yes I agree deadlines can certainly be shorter. Could I suggest instead of a 0.5 (12 hour) moving to a .75 (18 hour) deadline? Reason being not everybody runs the computer is 24 hours a day.

I feel potentially with a 0.5 day deadline you may get some hosts missing the deadline


The server still has running the grace_period so you have 12h + 12h

Speedy51
Send message
Joined: 7 Feb 18
Posts: 70
Credit: 242,181,797
RAC: 197,997
Message 9261 - Posted: 16 Nov 2023, 0:50:23 UTC - in response to Message 9260.

Yes I agree deadlines can certainly be shorter. Could I suggest instead of a 0.5 (12 hour) moving to a .75 (18 hour) deadline? Reason being not everybody runs the computer is 24 hours a day.

I feel potentially with a 0.5 day deadline you may get some hosts missing the deadline


The server still has running the grace_period so you have 12h + 12h

Fantastic nice touch. When processing I will do my best to get the work returned before deadline.

mmonnin
Send message
Joined: 1 Feb 17
Posts: 30
Credit: 542,335,973
RAC: 2,690,463
Message 9262 - Posted: 16 Nov 2023, 1:35:12 UTC

I don't see how changing deadlines does anything. It won't make tasks complete faster. If someone is running only SRBase this does nothing. If there a mix of projects then the client will adjust, once, if needed. But then will continue with the same project weighting.

If anything, someone with a large queue will just have tasks fail to complete before the deadline, be sent back to server, redistributed and end up at the back of someone else's queue.

Profile rebirther
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project tester
Project scientist
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 13
Posts: 7427
Credit: 42,730,867
RAC: 0
Message 9263 - Posted: 16 Nov 2023, 1:42:00 UTC - in response to Message 9262.

I don't see how changing deadlines does anything. It won't make tasks complete faster. If someone is running only SRBase this does nothing. If there a mix of projects then the client will adjust, once, if needed. But then will continue with the same project weighting.

If anything, someone with a large queue will just have tasks fail to complete before the deadline, be sent back to server, redistributed and end up at the back of someone else's queue.


It will be faster. Instead of waiting 3d to resend it will only take 1d.

Profile Prescott
Send message
Joined: 20 May 17
Posts: 69
Credit: 797,111,018
RAC: 2,204,596
Message 9271 - Posted: 17 Nov 2023, 4:13:57 UTC - in response to Message 9263.

I don't see how changing deadlines does anything. It won't make tasks complete faster. If someone is running only SRBase this does nothing. If there a mix of projects then the client will adjust, once, if needed. But then will continue with the same project weighting.

If anything, someone with a large queue will just have tasks fail to complete before the deadline, be sent back to server, redistributed and end up at the back of someone else's queue.


It will be faster. Instead of waiting 3d to resend it will only take 1d.


It will also reduce bunkering of Work Units.
____________
Primes Found:
50*893^231310-1 (Top 5000)
316*1010^150468+1
20*634^476756-1 (Top 5000)
6101*60^134079-1
96*789^506568+1 (Top 5000)
225*370^322863-1 (Top 5000)
4854*103^128181+1
71460*25^337758-1
3782*733^123379-1

Speedy51
Send message
Joined: 7 Feb 18
Posts: 70
Credit: 242,181,797
RAC: 197,997
Message 9279 - Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 20:41:28 UTC

Asking out of curiosity, do you have any idea when more work will be available?

Profile rebirther
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project tester
Project scientist
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 13
Posts: 7427
Credit: 42,730,867
RAC: 0
Message 9280 - Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 21:53:39 UTC - in response to Message 9279.

Asking out of curiosity, do you have any idea when more work will be available?


After all results are back. All primes which are found need to be removed from the sievefile. Already decreased deadline from the current batch today. I will increase work for the new batch to get it done in time. The current speed is awful.

Speedy51
Send message
Joined: 7 Feb 18
Posts: 70
Credit: 242,181,797
RAC: 197,997
Message 9281 - Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 22:00:25 UTC - in response to Message 9280.

Asking out of curiosity, do you have any idea when more work will be available?


After all results are back. All primes which are found need to be removed from the sievefile. Already decreased deadline from the current batch today. I will increase work for the new batch to get it done in time. The current speed is awful.

Thanks for the update. I wondered if Auck all results needed to be returned before new one can go out. Hope the remaining result return quickly for you

Jaari
Send message
Joined: 4 Apr 21
Posts: 13
Credit: 42,495,655
RAC: 0
Message 9282 - Posted: 18 Nov 2023, 22:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 9280.

Asking out of curiosity, do you have any idea when more work will be available?


After all results are back. All primes which are found need to be removed from the sievefile. Already decreased deadline from the current batch today. I will increase work for the new batch to get it done in time. The current speed is awful.


Yeah, for example, we're still waiting on the last two tasks for S51, the Sier-base short that was loaded almost two weeks ago, at like 4 minutes for a task.

Can't wait to see S66 be sped up. Will you load a larger n-range too?
That said, the workunits are short enough that I have trouble keeping work loaded (they crunch faster than I can get them downloaded).

Profile rebirther
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project tester
Project scientist
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 13
Posts: 7427
Credit: 42,730,867
RAC: 0
Message 9283 - Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 0:46:49 UTC - in response to Message 9282.

Asking out of curiosity, do you have any idea when more work will be available?


After all results are back. All primes which are found need to be removed from the sievefile. Already decreased deadline from the current batch today. I will increase work for the new batch to get it done in time. The current speed is awful.


Yeah, for example, we're still waiting on the last two tasks for S51, the Sier-base short that was loaded almost two weeks ago, at like 4 minutes for a task.

Can't wait to see S66 be sped up. Will you load a larger n-range too?
That said, the workunits are short enough that I have trouble keeping work loaded (they crunch faster than I can get them downloaded).


Sometimes its frustrating. I will try to setup a 2k range with lower deadline. We only have 30d left for 7M WUs. 8h for loading a batch (around 700k WUs) which has 2d of work.

Speedy51
Send message
Joined: 7 Feb 18
Posts: 70
Credit: 242,181,797
RAC: 197,997
Message 9284 - Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 2:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 9283.

When work is available I will happily help process it. Thanks for all of the work you put in behind-the-scenes so work can get processed

Profile rebirther
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project tester
Project scientist
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 13
Posts: 7427
Credit: 42,730,867
RAC: 0
Message 9285 - Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 18:34:41 UTC

I have switched all the work to my host to finish up the rest, all in progress WUs by others got credits.

Preparing for the new batch there will be some changes:

- grace_period reduced from 12h to 6h
- deadline would be 6h (in total you have a deadline of 12h)

Speedy51
Send message
Joined: 7 Feb 18
Posts: 70
Credit: 242,181,797
RAC: 197,997
Message 9288 - Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 20:45:37 UTC - in response to Message 9285.


Preparing for the new batch there will be some changes:

- grace_period reduced from 12h to 6h
- deadline would be 6h (in total you have a deadline of 12h)

Message 9260 - Posted: 15 Nov 2023, 22:38:27 UTC - in response to Message 9259.
The server still has running the grace_period so you have 12h + 12h

This is a shame, hopefully not much work will have to be reissued because of tasks missing deadlines, for people that need to turn their machines off overnight

Profile rebirther
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project tester
Project scientist
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 2 Jan 13
Posts: 7427
Credit: 42,730,867
RAC: 0
Message 9289 - Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 20:55:47 UTC - in response to Message 9288.
Last modified: 19 Nov 2023, 20:58:22 UTC


Preparing for the new batch there will be some changes:

- grace_period reduced from 12h to 6h
- deadline would be 6h (in total you have a deadline of 12h)

Message 9260 - Posted: 15 Nov 2023, 22:38:27 UTC - in response to Message 9259.
The server still has running the grace_period so you have 12h + 12h

This is a shame, hopefully not much work will have to be reissued because of tasks missing deadlines, for people that need to turn their machines off overnight


If these machines are turned off then its better to run other apps. In this case its a must to reach the goal, cant find another way. Reducing the work cache also helping.

Speedy51
Send message
Joined: 7 Feb 18
Posts: 70
Credit: 242,181,797
RAC: 197,997
Message 9290 - Posted: 19 Nov 2023, 21:23:04 UTC - in response to Message 9289.


Preparing for the new batch there will be some changes:

- grace_period reduced from 12h to 6h
- deadline would be 6h (in total you have a deadline of 12h)

Message 9260 - Posted: 15 Nov 2023, 22:38:27 UTC - in response to Message 9259.
The server still has running the grace_period so you have 12h + 12h

This is a shame, hopefully not much work will have to be reissued because of tasks missing deadlines, for people that need to turn their machines off overnight


If these machines are turned off then its better to run other apps. In this case its a must to reach the goal, cant find another way. Reducing the work cache also helping.

All good, you would have got to your goal faster with the use of my CPU. I will just use my GPU for this project and use my CPU for around 14 hours a day on other projects

Profile Prescott
Send message
Joined: 20 May 17
Posts: 69
Credit: 797,111,018
RAC: 2,204,596
Message 9291 - Posted: 20 Nov 2023, 1:51:36 UTC
Last modified: 20 Nov 2023, 1:53:05 UTC

With the reduced timeline, do you think we should also reduce the max number of work units per day available to increase opportunity to those who don't run most of the day?
____________
Primes Found:
50*893^231310-1 (Top 5000)
316*1010^150468+1
20*634^476756-1 (Top 5000)
6101*60^134079-1
96*789^506568+1 (Top 5000)
225*370^322863-1 (Top 5000)
4854*103^128181+1
71460*25^337758-1
3782*733^123379-1

1 · 2 · Next
Post to thread

Message boards : News : upcoming S66 batch change


Main page · Your account · Message boards


Copyright © 2014-2024 BOINC Confederation / rebirther